Rove Adds Qantas Transfer Partner | 50% Transfer Bonus, Qantas Sweet Spots & July 2026
Rove Update Justin Vacula of the Hurdy Gurdy Travel Podcast welcomes Carissa Rawson from Rove to discuss Rove’s July 2026 update, including the addition of Qantas Frequent Flyer as Rove’s new transfer partner.
Rove now offers 1:1 transfers to Qantas, along with a limited-time 50% transfer bonus through August 14, 2026. Carissa explains how Rove Miles work as a flexible travel rewards currency that does not require a credit card. She highlights Rove’s hotel booking platform, high hotel earning multipliers, shopping portal, Chrome extension, 13,000+ online merchants, instant miles on prepaid and non-refundable hotel bookings, and ways to earn through Rove events and meetups.
Justin and Carissa also discuss potential Qantas sweet spots, including distance-based award pricing, low-cost domestic U.S. awards, Caribbean and Central America options, Tahiti flights, and the possibility of booking Emirates First Class through Qantas, including important status-related restrictions and booking considerations.
The episode also covers Rove’s roadmap, including upcoming August announcements, app development, elite status plans, new browser extensions, and Rove’s growth beyond the traditional points-and-miles community.
Timestamps
00:00 Podcast Intro Theme
00:32 Welcome And Guest Setup
01:08 Qantas Partner Bonus
01:36 What Is Rove?
02:33 Earning Miles And Meetups
03:26 Qantas Sweet Spots
04:39 Emirates First Class Access
06:53 Frontier And Other Partners
08:40 How Partnerships Happen
10:17 Uzbekistan Team Retreat
11:35 Sponsor Announcements Break
13:38 App And Status Roadmap
15:07 Popular Partners And Europe
16:53 Underused Award Search Tool
18:45 Beyond Points And Miles Crowd
20:24 Dave Ramsey Credit Debate
23:30 Where To Find Rove
24:38 Closing And Outro Theme
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You’re listening to the “Hurdy Gurdy Travel Podcast.” I’m your host, Justin Vacula, here to help you make money, save money, and travel the world at low cost. Carissa Rawson from Rove joins me today to talk about what’s new with Rove in July 2026, including the recent transfer partner Qantas and an increased transfer bonus for a limited time.
On with today’s [00:01:00] episode recorded July 15th, 2026. Welcome back to the show, Carissa. Hey, thanks for having me. The new news today, Qantas is now a Rove partner Yeah, this is our 20th transfer partner, which is very exciting news. Obviously it launched July 15th, so today, and I’m really excited about it.
It’s a one-to-one transfer just like all of our airline partners, but we are doing a 50% transfer bonus through 11:59 PM Eastern on August 14th, so a whole month to get an extra 50%.
Excellent, and for listeners not familiar with Rove, can you give us a short explanation of Rove?
Yeah, happy to. Rove is a travel rewards program that’s similar to American Express, Membership Rewards, Capital One Miles, Citi ThankYou points, et cetera, et cetera, in that it’s flexible. Rove miles can be redeemed in a variety of ways. You can redeem for flights and you can redeem for hotels or [00:02:00] again 20 transfer partners, including 19 different airline programs and one hotel.
So very cool. I love the program. We have no credit card, which is very different from any, like Amex and Citi and Chase, et cetera. But we have really high multipliers on a lot of our hotels, so we say up to 25X per dollar spent. In practicality or in reality, I’ve seen it as high as 50X in the past, so that’s our differentiator. And yeah, the fact that we have no credit card and that you can pair it with a travel rewards card and then stack it.
Book hotels, book flights, and you could use the Rove shopping as well to make purchases online and earn Rove miles.
We’ve got the Chrome extension and also Rove shopping, just the actual portal. One of my favorite numbers to trot out is our number of merchants. We’ve got more than 13,000 merchants, and our next closest competitor is Rakuten, who has 3,000, and that’s just a very crazy difference.
Lots of ways to earn Rove Miles, [00:03:00] and you can also earn by going to Rove in-person events, Rove meetups. You have one coming to Austin, I believe, and Rove has appeared at many conferences in the past, too. Yeah, we have a couple of meetups actually coming up. Next one is the August 1st weekend in Columbus, Ohio.
And then on the final weekend in August, we have a full weekend in Texas, so one day is Austin and one day is Dallas, the Rove World Tour. Let’s return to Qantas. There are some sweet spots with Qantas.
People have mentioned Emirates first class and maybe some other very good value flights. I saw someone post in the Rove Insiders Facebook group that they also found flights at really good value from Detroit to Australia Oh, that’s a good one.
I’ve been a fan of Qantas for a long time because they’re one of the few airlines that still maintains a distance-based award chart.
And if you’ve been in points and miles for a while, you’ve, like me, you’ve been watching [00:04:00] every airline move away from distance-based pricing and fixed award charts into dynamic, and it’s sad. But Qantas hasn’t done that yet, and, knock on wood, they hopefully won’t. You can really score amazing deals .
We were looking at the award chart yesterday, and for domestic American flights, it’s as cheap as 9,200 Qantas points one way. And that’s cool. Y- that’s really cheap. Where American has been gutting its last-minute deals removing any basically saver awards the fact that you can still book for 9,200 not factoring the 50% bonus, that’s a good deal.
One of my favorites also is Qantas to Tahiti, ’cause I go to French Polynesia probably more than anyone should, and that’s a really great use of points. And then I’ll say this, ’cause you did mention Emirates first class. So if anyone’s unaware Emirates has been just dismantling access to first class awards.
It used to be fairly accessible, and then everybody and their mother was like, “Let’s get on Emirates. Let’s take all the showers,” and, and they felt that it was cheapening the program, so they’ve been really restricting who has access. They’ve removed [00:05:00] every partner and their access except for one, and that’s Qantas.
Now, they have made it a requirement that you have to have at least Qantas some status in order to book first class, but I think that’s really interesting because I can service those results on Qantas’s website as a lowly nobody, and I’m not gonna be the data point, but I want somebody, maybe one of your listeners, to be the data point I wish to see, and see if it’s actually bookable as a nobody first class.
Like, how are they verifying? If they’re willing to service it in a search result what are they blocking? You know what I mean? Emirates, you need the Emirates status to fly, right? Qantas. Qantas status. Oh, okay. Interesting. So if you have… Yeah, it… Yeah, weird, right? So Emirates also, if you wanna use Emirates Skywards for first class, you need Emirates status.
But Qantas is the sole partner left, and they’ve made it so that if you want to do Emirates first class using Qantas points, you have to have Qantas status. Okay. Unless, of course, they don’t really enforce it, and who knows? That could [00:06:00] be an interesting test, but it would be very sad to get to the airport and get denied.
Yep. But if you get ticketed, confirmed, all of that, then- yeah … you should be good to fly, right? Yeah and you wear your best, I don’t know, long pair of khaki pants and see if they, are nice to you at check-in. Who knows? Bring some Vegemite and maybe, … some other Australian favorites.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it was, like, a Tim Tam? Or is it… That’s Australian Tim Tams? Oh, I don’t know. Maybe. Listeners will have to chime in the comments on that one. Let us know. But yeah, I’m really excited about Qantas.
Has it become harder to book Emirates first through Qantas recently?
How’s the availability been with that? They have fairly decent availability just in, because there’s no competition, right?
I had no issue finding anything. And then the only thing there was a small disclaimer that said, “You must have status to book this,” but it let me select the flight and I just didn’t have enough points, so decent award availability, and check and see.
Very good, and lots of options with Rove as the transfer partners continue. No more Spirit, of [00:07:00] course, but Qantas adding, and you recently also had Frontier as a transfer partner. Yeah, Frontier is such an interesting one.
In the frequent traveler community it was a little bit like, but I think there’s a lot to be said for an airline that is basically, it’s not free, but it’s about as free as free can get in terms of award flights.
It’s our very first domestic transit partner. They’re growing their network, they’re getting better products, they’re allowing you to redeem miles if you wanna have bags and seat selection and stuff like that, so you can truly make it an affordable option even without having to pay a ton of money in ancillary fees.
Though I will say the padding on Frontier seating could be better. Bring your own cushion perhaps. And back to Qantas, I’m seeing that you can transfer from Rove, and if you need more or want more, you can also transfer from Capital One miles, Citi ThankYou, Amex Membership Rewards as well, and now of course Rove and with the 50% transfer [00:08:00] bonus.
Yeah, they have a lot of partners. Not Chase, right? I don’t think Chase. I don’t think Chase does that. No. But yeah, and now Rove. And, what’s cool, obviously among many things, is the fact that if you book a prepaid or non-refundable room or hotel, you get your miles instantly.
So if you wanna take advantage, for example, of the transfer bonus, you can do it, and you can do it basically up until the last day and not have an issue. Frequentmiler.com is saying that Caribbean flights could be 8K one way with Qantas or maybe 9,200 miles each way. They mention Miami to Grand Cayman, Miami to most of Central America and the Caribbean.
Yeah, good deals.
Good. Even more options And you’ve been adding all these partners. How is it behind the scenes? You contact these representatives, do they reach out to Rove? How does that go, if you can share that information? Yeah, there’s a couple of different ways that we go about it. It’s definitely been a learning curve for me
i’ll tell you probably my favorite story ever about getting a partner, and [00:09:00] this isn’t Qantas. I didn’t… Max, our CEO, worked on Qantas. But probably one of my favorite story is when we were doing JAL. I was at a conference in Amsterdam, and I was there with the purpose of, attracting more partners.
And so I go up, and it’s six JAL representatives, and I’m like, “Hi.” And I make my spiel. I’m like, “Rove is this, Rove is that.” And I’m like talking to, directing my words to one guy. And so I finish my spiel, and then he goes, “Ah.” And then he turns to look at one of his colleagues, and then she starts interpreting for him.
And I was like, dang it. I didn’t even talk to the right person because he didn’t speak any English. But then we set an appointment for a meeting for the next day, and I knew that since there was a little bit of a language barrier, I’d have to have something more than just like a good pitch.
And so I showed up when we were at this table together, opened my laptop, and I just gave a live demo of Rove. And they were so polite and so nice. These six people sat just staring at my screen like, “Oh, [00:10:00] wow, this looks really cool,” “this is awesome.” It worked. The first thing they said, we already have Capital One.” And I was like, “But you could have more than just Capital One.” Did you know? Not just one, but Capital One. Yeah. It was cool.
There’s a variety of different ways. Sometimes, it’s our outreach, sometimes we’re doing it in person, sometimes it’s over email. Many different ways. Lots of traveling. You’re going to be going to the country of Uzbekistan, if I’m saying that properly. Yeah. Our very first Rove work retreat is tomorrow.
There’s a direct flight, did you know that? There’s a direct flight from New York to Tashkent, Uzbekistan- Ah, okay … that runs a few times a week. Yeah, so weird. And so we’re all going for a few days, like four or five nights. It’s supposed to be like 111 degrees.
The team has been growing so, so rapidly in the last few months. We’ve added a bunch of people. It’ll be nice to have everyone just get to know each other, a little bit more. Lots of cool stuff planned. Why Uzbekistan? I’ll tell you why. We are a travel company. [00:11:00] When we were talking about places to go, we were looking at the whole world and especially as points and miles people it was like we don’t wanna go somewhere that’s not that nice, like I went to Azerbaijan because it had a Ritz Carlton at a Cat 5 or a Cat 2. Luxury for good value being able to say that you went to something and stayed somewhere really nice and it cost basically nothing. And then also Uzbekistan is just a very cool country to be able to check off on your list and say that you’ve been. It’s a feather in the cap in a few different ways.
So that’s how we ended up on it instead of somewhere a bit more common like some Caribbean or Mexico or somewhere in Europe. Very good. We’ll take a break for short announcements and we’ll return to discussion about Rove. The show is free for listeners with no paywall. I spend time editing audio, creating transcripts, and preparing for the show.
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Simply cancel existing flights and rebook when Autopilot emails you about lower fares. Find my link in the show notes. Returning to today’s show, talking about Rove with Carissa Rawson. Welcome back to the show, Carissa Yeah. I’m still glad to be here. Excellent. And with Qantas coming, you’re going to have yet another announcement coming up in August.
We might be recording in early August this time around, rather than the end of the month or the middle, like today. Yeah. I know I said it pre-recording, but I really think that we should have an early August very early August [00:14:00] recording for important reasons. Something for people to look forward to.
And the Rove app is still in development? Yeah, we’re still working on the app. Hopefully very soon we’ll be able to put out the Android beta, which is good for me because I am an Android user. Obviously the iOS iPhone has been in beta for a while now. And yeah, fingers crossed we’ll be able to get the app out quickly.
Any other features coming soon to Rove, or things maybe longer down the line? , Our elite status program is still in development. But we’ve been working quite a lot at it.
We don’t want to put out a crap one, because what’s the point of getting status if there’s no meaningful benefits? I know we did a survey months ago asking people what they wanted in terms of benefits, and so that’s been really helpful.
We have a Chrome extension, but we don’t have a Safari extension, et cetera, et cetera. So those are in development, and what will be nice about that is right now the offers between the extension and the portal can vary.
The new extension will [00:15:00] have all of the offers and just normalize between whether you’re shopping via the website or the extension. A lot of things in the works. You put out the survey some time ago. Have you seen, perhaps from the survey or from user data which transfer partners have been the most popular?
Our most popular is JAL.
Japan Airlines, because and I’m sure you will have noticed this just being in the space, Japan is the place everyone wants to go, and everyone wants to go there on JAL. Aside from BILT there’s not really a competitor because Capital One’s not at a one-to-one ratio.
Otherwise, there’s the JAL credit card with the First National Bank of Omaha.
I believe it’s the JAL USA card. But it’s a long way to the top if you wanna rock and roll, as the song goes, because the card can help you earn status, but it’s a lot of spend for status, and I don’t think the earnings are too good. But people find those Japan Airlines miles to be valuable. Yeah.
And even their award chart also, not just for flights to Japan, but in general, like their flights to Europe, their pricing is [00:16:00] competitive. Yeah, they’ve got a lot of really good sweet spots as well, and I think that we can… You’ll see, you’ll see in any partner that is a foreign partner that has historically been locked away from most Americans, they have much better redemptions than any of United or Delta or someone that, or a partner that has had a lot of influence from US credit cards or the US market.
Many people might be redeeming to take the business class flights overseas to get to somewhere like London, somewhere like Amsterdam. But what about once they get there, if they’re going from London to maybe Italy, maybe they’re going to a different country? Can Rove help for those inter-Europe flights?
Yeah. We’ve got Miles & More, right? So Lufthansa or Swiss or and then SAS actually has really good redemption rates for intra-Europe. Both of those I think would be my recommendations
Going back to the Rove website, rove.com, are there features of the website that you think are [00:17:00] underused that maybe people can be taking more advantage of to earn Rove Miles? That’s a really good question. To earn more Rove miles, I would say Or more broadly, a feature that people have been underusing even if it’s not on the earn side.
Yeah, I would say broadly, ’cause I think that this is important. We redid our entire flight search thing, and I think that it doesn’t have the notice it should because we are an unlocked, completely free live award search engine. We also do all of the cash searches, and direct booking redemption costs, and transfer partner costs for all cabins in a single search, which is like unheard of. That’s not a thing. Nobody has that. That doesn’t make as big a news as you would think it would.
We only search our own partners, so that’s, it’s limited in that way. But otherwise, I think that’s really cool and something that should be relied on a lot more, especially for programs like Miles & More, which requires that you have 1,500 miles in your account in order to search on the website.[00:18:00]
We let you do it just for free. Ah, that’s an odd restriction because what if people- Yeah … wanted to transfer in and they were looking for flights and they couldn’t even search for them? Sorry for your luck, my friend. Just go to- That’s it, yeah … rove.com and unlock that odd restriction. Yeah. Yeah, it’s really weird, right?
Anything else going on that listeners should know about?
Look, we’re continuing to grow. We have so many cool things in the pipeline. Obviously, not just all of the things that I’ve been teasing. We have so many more things planned, and I can’t wait for everybody to see it because especially being a points and miles person myself and coming in and being on the front lines of a program that I get to have impact on what we do and the features we build, it’s really cool.
Keep your eyes peeled because we have way more planned for the rest of the year I imagine that a big part of Rove’s user base is people in miles and points, but what about people outside who don’t have many or maybe [00:19:00] any credit cards? Have you had feedback from those people that maybe are just using debit cards or maybe they’re just using cash back credit cards, they don’t like annual fees, they think this is all too complex?
At this point, people no longer think we’re a scam mostly or that we’re on the verge of collapse at all times which was a lot of what we were dealing with in the first year. In terms of the points and miles community, we’re now a familiar beast Going broader in terms of Gen Z and the young- younger urban demographic we have a fairly decent user base because it’s an easier sell than telling somebody to get a credit card.
And we’re continuing to grow in that market as well. Points and miles people only make up a fraction of the population of America, a very tiny fraction, although we are mighty. We’re looking to expand even more into sort of a Gen Z demographic and then eventually, obviously, into Gen Alpha.
Especially college-age kids are, they’re such a natural fit for Rove. They’re much more interested in [00:20:00] experiences, and so they’ve got no credit for a credit card, and they don’t wanna buy shoes necessarily and they wanna go on trips with their friends.
And so Rove is a perfect market fit for that. Hopefully not barefoot on the airplanes, though. I’ve seen it, man. I’ve seen it. I’ve saw someone walk barefoot into the bathroom. Oh. Imagine. You’re never getting that out. Like, all right, enjoy sleeping with those feet for the rest of your life.
By the way, I think you’ll actually find this very funny. We were talking in the office the other day about Dave Ramsey, and if we- Fan, fan of the podcast, yep. And if, and if we were gonna be on Dave Ramsey and try and talk about Rove, and we kinda sparked a debate, actually, I’d like to hear what you have to say about whether or not the people who listen to Dave Ramsey would find value in Rove.
That would be very interesting, and if he were to be consistent- Yeah … with his principles then he would say, “Oh look, you don’t have to use a credit card, and you could still earn airline miles,” although he’s still poo-pooing airline miles. But [00:21:00] Rove has a big benefit in serving many purposes that you don’t have to transfer to programs if you don’t want to.
You could just use the portal, use the Rove Miles you already have. And I know he’s attracted attention from outside the podcast. We had Rachel Points and Miles, R-A-C-H-E-L, that recently responded to him, and Gary Leff had a long post responding to Dave Ramsey saying that we were the worst, I think probably. I think the worst, yeah. Yep, I would expect that obviously he’s trying to be inflammatory because that’s a really strong opinion to hold about someone you don’t know. I can’t imagine being fiscally smart and then also holding the opinion, like for example, that an airline mile or a credit card is bad.
I can’t, those two ideas don’t jive. Full stop. It just sounds to me like he thinks that everyone’s gonna have a spending problem and nobody should ever use credit cards, but he doesn’t acknowledge the reality that many adults or even some adults are going to be financially responsible, and credit cards can be a great [00:22:00] benefit.
It’s a tool. It could be used well, it could be used poorly, just like alcohol, driving cars, and so many other things. Yeah, I agree with that. I think also, it doesn’t make any sense to, to advertise against using credit cards because there are so many legal protections that come with credit cards that you don’t get with cash and debit, and that, again, if you have any fiscal or personal finance knowledge, that should be something that you’re aware of.
If you’re so worried about people being able to misuse a tool, then why not say get a secured card or, what have you? There are so many different ways that you could say or keep on track for fiscal responsibility I’m sure set limits. You can freeze cards. You can do a lot of things, and even use Rove, use cashback debit cards, many other things rather than just using a standard bank debit card getting nothing back on your purchases. And if people are using online travel agencies that compete with Rove, they’re not earning as much as they could using Rove.
Some sites will say, “Oh, if you [00:23:00] book five hotels through us, you’ll get one night free,” but I imagine that the earning potential on Rove is going to be a lot higher than that and many more choices of hotels, and you also have the loyalty eligible hotel bookings that people can use to earn elite qualifying nights, extra points with the program, get different benefits, and much more.
Yep. Agreed. That’s it, yep. That’s it. Yeah. All right. Very good. Anything else as we come to a close? No, I think that’s it for me. All right … I’ll see you again in two weeks, how can people find you and Rove online? So we’re at rove.com, pretty easy. We have @joinrove on Instagram and on TikTok. We also have GiGi our social girl has been spinning up a variety of accounts.
Our global adventure officer, the guy who ended up being selected, just started posting yesterday. He’s over on Instagram, and it’s james.rove. He’s had some really cool experiences with all of his Rove Miles.
[00:24:00] We gave him a million Rove Miles for anyone who doesn’t have context. And he’s been traveling around the world. His editing is incredible. He looks so cool. I’m very jealous. Otherwise, I’m personally @justplanepoints .
We have a private Facebook group, the Rove Insiders group, where we talk about some more secret stuff. We have a Discord. We have a public Facebook group travel Deals with Rove where we publish some of the best deals that you’ll find on Rove in terms of flights and hotels other news, things like that.
We have a Reddit r/rovemiles, et cetera, et cetera. Basically, if you Google Rove, you’ll be able to find us.
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