Discover the Upcoming Alaska Airlines Premium Credit Card! | Hurdy Gurdy Travel Podcast
In this episode of the Hurdy Gurdy Travel Podcast, host Justin Vacula and co-host Darren dive deep into the highly anticipated Alaska Airlines Premium Credit Card.
This card is expected to launch with a strong welcome bonus, valuable ongoing benefits, and powerful travel perks. Whether you’re a frequent flyer with Alaska Airlines or a travel hacker looking to maximize credit card rewards, airline miles, and loyalty programs, this discussion is packed with insights to help you get the most from your points and miles.
We cover the details of the upcoming card, including:
✈️ Bonus miles and elite status earning opportunities
✈️ Lounge passes and airport benefits
✈️ Companion fare awards and redemption strategies
✈️ Best ways to maximize Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan
✈️ Comparing this card to other premium credit cards
✈️ Approval tips and how Bank of America fits into the picture
You’ll also hear our personal travel stories, experiences with credit card redemptions, and practical advice on booking flights, stacking benefits, and reducing out-of-pocket costs for trips.
Stay tuned until the end for updates on upcoming events, community meetups, and future podcast episodes.
Episode Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction to the Hurdy Gurdy Travel Podcast
00:45 – Alaska Airlines Premium Credit Card overview
01:40 – Co-host Darren joins the discussion
02:11 – Travel hacking & credit card strategies explained
02:39 – Alaska Airlines card benefits breakdown
06:39 – How to value Alaska miles & points
14:49 – Comparing credit card offers & welcome bonuses
19:31 – Elite status earning & spending categories
28:31 – Lounge access, day passes & perks
32:47 – Exploring travel perks, bonuses & hidden benefits
34:56 – Companion fare awards & spending strategies
37:51 – Approval tips & insights on Bank of America
39:28 – Evaluating the Alaska Premium Credit Card overall
46:24 – Travel stories, booking hacks & practical advice
52:06 – Upcoming events, meetups & final thoughts
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Theme Song: [00:00:00] Travel at low cost with points and miles. Credit card rewards bring the smiles. Many adventures tales to be told, make and save money, the world will unfold.
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Justin Vacula: You’re listening to the Hurdy Gurdy Travel Podcast. I’m your host, Justin Vacula, here to help you make money, save money, and travel the world at next to no cost with credit card points, miles, benefits, and loyalty programs. Thanks for joining me for today’s episode, Alaska Airlines upcoming premium credit card.
This is a promising credit card many should be eager to apply for because of a strong welcome offer and ongoing value through benefits, [00:01:00] visit meetup.com/phillyMilesandpoints to RSVP for monthly Greater Philadelphia Travel Credit Miles and Points meetups I host in Willow Grove, Pennsylvania. The next meetup is August 24th, 2025.
Find a link in the show notes for more content between podcast episodes. Follow Hurdy Gurdy Travel Podcast on Facebook and x. Follow Justin Vacula on Instagram. Subscribe to Hurdy Gurdy Travel Podcast on YouTube for daily content including travel videos, podcast clips, community, and posts. On with today’s episode recorded August 17th, 2025.
Thanks for joining me. Returning show co-host, Darren. Hey, Justin, always good to be back. Happy to have you here as we have some new credit card news. I’m back from two cruises and with a new computer following various issues. So I’m ready to record home after a lot of [00:02:00] travel and now a short break.
It’s been a busy summer, right?
You’ve been traveling? I’ve been traveling. I’ve been working. Kids have been off. Kids are going back to school soon. There’s new credit cards out. The ultimate manufacturer spending tuition payments are coming due. Yeah,
Justin Vacula: that’s good. The classic travel hackers dilemma travel and other things interfering with other things.
We say it’s a dilemma, right? But hell look who we are to have all these options to be able to travel. How do we say it? At? Low or no cost? Oh yes. Travel at
Justin Vacula: low cost with points and miles.
That’s e people say you’re not the guy singing it, Justin, but I don’t know. I don’t know. You and I talked a little ahead of, of hand, of course, a little pre-call plan on this episode and talked about the wait list on this Alaska card.
This premium card had been, had been rumored for some time, but we’ll get into that of course in just a few minutes. Excited to to talk about. Another way we can learn, we can earn, or at least selfishly, I can earn [00:03:00] Alaska miles, which have become more and more valuable to me all the time, and hopefully will help others
Justin Vacula: learn and earn and burn and churn.
I see what you did there and I like it. And I like it. Yeah, so we signed up for this wait list. I think it was something like 5K miles. 10 K miles for. Signing up and allegedly when this card comes out, we’re going to get bonuses on top of bonuses. A wait list bonus, a welcome bonus. Various benefits with Alaska Airlines and their loyalty program has survived largely intact, invaluable.
While others gutted their award charts, it may or may not be renamed. We’ll see about that going forward. The partner redemptions, especially for international travel, I think are still very strong that you can use Alaska miles or points to book with partners. There’s code sharing with American Airlines and you’ve taken some international trips.
Right. I have my eye
[00:04:00] on Condor business booked with Alaska Mile for an upcoming trip to Southeast Asia. Working on that. Brian Connell friend of the show and occasional member of the Philly Points and Miles. Meetup group, greater Philadelphia Travel
Justin Vacula: Credit
Miles. There we go. That’s, you need to re-listen
Justin Vacula: to episodes.
Anyway, he, he travels to Thailand a fair bit for family reasons and so he had pointed me towards that and I’m appreciative. So I’ve been keeping my own that of course, I’m always chasing five in business with our family. That’s truly the travel hacker, travel hackers to limp. Justin, how do we get five up front?
Got a couple things I’m working on. We got five there. Singapore, Jay on the longest flight in the world, new work to S. So excited about that. But anyway, back to Alaska. Sorry, I took us off a little bit.
Justin Vacula: Oh, that’s all right. So that’s the value of using miles and points for international. Yeah, travel, especially flying in business, and we could do that with [00:05:00] Alaska.
Historically, the Alaska credit cards have been okay. Probably nothing earth shattering, probably. Mostly about a welcome offer, a companion fair, the famous or maybe infamous companion fair, a free bag maybe, and some bonuses, but not many interesting spending categories or perks. But this new premium card, it looks like Alaska’s finally stepping up to compete with the ultra premium, or maybe even just premium credit cards like the Chase Sapphire Reserve, the Venture X.
The new city card or cards, some Rebrands redesigns, and even other airline cards with United AA and Delta. So I think with these rumors, these screenshots, what we’ve seen, it seems credible. This was shared by tim@frequentmiler.com, suggesting some of the benefits and the [00:06:00] structure of this new card. So this is August 17th, 2025.
We recording. Maybe the new card will be like this, maybe not. But the information we have so far, 5,000 bonus miles with Alaska just for opening the card. And a hundred thousand bonus miles after 6,000 spend in 90 days. A global 20 5K companion award included in the offer. And then potentially bonus, if you signed up on the wait list for this card.
$395 annual fee and many benefits. So let’s start, Darren with a hundred K Alaska miles. What might that be worth? What might that sign up bonus be worth?
Yeah, it’s a great question. I, I think it, I think a couple different people try to put a value on that. I think frequent milers, certainly one of them you mentioned earlier, and I think they come in at 1.6 in that range, 1.8.
I think that’s one of the more valuable [00:07:00] airline miles by itself. And I think you can get that value, and this is maybe unusual for some of the airline miles, right? You can get that value both domestically, right? By booking some of these cheap American Airline co-chair. Last year I flew down to Nashville for 4,500 points, maybe 7,500 in first from Philly to Nashville.
So that was a great trip. Great use of miles. And then like we talked about earlier, you could do round trip to. From East Coast to Frankfurt, Germany, for example, on Condor, that’d be a code share. You could do something more, a little further distance one way, right? So I’ve been looking at the Bangkok to East coast, us that’s 80 5K on condor, going through, going through Frankfurt.
In in, in business, certainly cheaper in economy. If you’re interested in that, maybe you can snag and exit seed or something like that and stretch out a little bit. So I think there’s tremendous value here. Again, I’m thinking $1,500, maybe 2000 depending on what your travel [00:08:00] looks like. A reminder that Alaska does have a partner booking fee of $12 and 50 cents one way.
So if you book a round trip ticket, it’d be $25. One way is 1250. That’s not refundable Alaska. Otherwise, those points are refundable, I think up to the time the flight actually departs. Really nice flexibility there. And you mentioned earlier Alaska is one of the only. Airlines that hasn’t devalued. And of course maybe that’s related to the recent merger with Hawaiian and oversight from the SEC or other governmental organizations that basically said, you can’t devalue your program right after you guys get together.
So not in that
Justin Vacula: situation.
Not in that situation. We’re in it for the long game, Justin. Yeah. So that’s the, uh, that seems to be, or that’s been speculated to be part of the. Foundation here to keep the value of the points. And of course there was the loophole where we could transfer membership rewards into Alaska, through Hawaiian for a little while.
That’s of course [00:09:00] ended unfortunately. But they’re still built as a transfer partner if you’re, if you’re doing that. But otherwise, that really the only way to accrue Alaska miles is through new credit card signups. And this is, I think, an interesting card, especially now that the last couple years I haven’t been able to, and I don’t think anyone’s been able to churn the cards like we once did to generate those points.
Justin Vacula: Some spend from the BOA Alaska cards as well, but as I said, they’re not too impressive Past the signup bonus or for ongoing spend at least, I don’t think there are better options than that probably. And there’s a hundred thousand miles, maybe even a conservative floor of around a thousand to $1,200 in value.
And of course with transfer partners with better bookings. You can get even more than that. So a 3 95 annual fee for a hundred K points. That’s really nice. And this offer, again, is a rumor or a leak, maybe intended for employees. The public [00:10:00] version might be lower, but even if it’s 80 K, 70 k, 60 k for a signup bonus, and the benefits largely remain, I still think that’s pretty good for a credit card for an airline card.
At least having the card for one year and then canceling downgrading, or making a decision in year two if the annual fee doesn’t make sense to keep paying for. As I’ve talked to some people newer in the game, they get really scared about the annual fee, and I usually say that in the first year it’s usually an easy decision.
With many cards, you’re going to pay an annual fee. But then once that annual fee posts for the second year, then you have a decision. And with most issuers, you get 30 days to make a decision. So if you decide not to keep the card or product change or downgrade, you’re not responsible for paying that 395 in year two.
I think that’s a good reminder, Justin, that of course the credit card companies would prefer that we keep these cards open. Right? You like to see some history that we’re not just opening and closing cards, but you and I have both an open [00:11:00] and closed cards fairly frequently.
And we’re still, and banks are still approving us and we’re, we’re doing some other things that make us look like valuable customers and they’re happy to continue to have our business. I think generally speaking, like you said, folks are worried about things that probably don’t need to be worried about.
If you have interest in flying on Alaska medal or some flights online, and you can even go on signup free right now for the Alaska app, right. Start looking around and see where could I fly on Alaska with Alaska miles and just see, hey, I was thinking about going here next year or next summer or this fall.
Justin Vacula: Yes. And you’ve used award search tools to make this process even easier and find the more valuable redemptions. Right. I have Seed dot Arrow
is certainly one of those that usually does a pretty good job finding award availability through Alaska. Points, yeah, is another good one. I like to play around sometimes as well.
If I have flexible bookings, for example, [00:12:00] flight connections is good. So for example, if I’m trying to find that Bangkok to East coast us, maybe it’s Bangkok to Frankfurt to Boston, Bangkok to Frankfurt to Toronto, and then if I have to do a cheap economy flight from Boston to New York or Toronto to New York, that’s not a big deal because I’ve flown 95%.
Of the time in business when it really mattered.
Justin Vacula: Oh, nice. And if you go to Boston, of course you can ride the T with MBTA, Boston’s favorite celebrity, purple Princess Perry on Instagram. So shout out to her past podcast guest. Lots of peas and lots of fun. A terrific time.
If I, if I end up in Boston, I’ll be reaching out and making sure that I get all the inside scoop on the Boston Public Transport.
Justin Vacula: Make a connection to make a connection.
Yeah, exactly.
Justin Vacula: Back to the Alaska card. It has interesting ongoing earnings. Three x points on Alaska and Hawaiian airline [00:13:00] spend is my understanding. Three x on dining purchases. And here’s one I don’t think we’ve heard before. Three X on foreign transactions or foreign purchases or overseas purchases.
I’ve used the Altitude Reserve three X mobile wallet wall overseas, which also has no foreign transaction fee, but unfortunately that card is devaluing later this year. So we’re probably downgrading and we’ll have an altitude connect and altitude go, or cash plus if they allow that some more unhappiness there.
So the Alaska credit card that’s coming out according to this. Three X could be useful for those foreign transactions and a guaranteed coding. I was talking to past podcast guest Mark Kosinski, and he was lamenting being overseas. And is this place going to code as a bakery, a restaurant? What’s it going to be?
So for this card, just to have three x on [00:14:00] foreign purchases, I think is nice. A little bit of peace of mind, a little bit of a quality of life upgrade. You’ll get your points there, one x everywhere else, and a 10% rewards bonus if you have a Bank of America account, perhaps a checking account, a Merrill Edge investment account.
Not sure how that’s going to be. So America loves math. The three x sounds like 3.3% and the one will be 1.1%. And you can also get Alaska status with spend one status point per $2 in spend. America still loves math, so 0.5% return in status per dollar. So how does this compare to other cards? We have the Amex Gold for four x dining, the Chase Sapphire reserve for three x dining, three x travel, but that three X is also going away later this year.[00:15:00]
Is my understanding, at least on most travel or generic travel bookings. The New City Strata Elite card, they have the 6, 6 6 promotion. They should have perhaps collaborated with Iron Maiden for the number of the beast on that one. So on dining, this is competitive, but I don’t think this is a card you would use for all of your spend maybe in the categories and maybe spending towards status.
And also maybe those who have access to, let’s say, powerful portals for quote unquote dining spend. Might like this for three x or 3.3 x on quote unquote dining spend. And maybe there can be other creative spending that goes on with this three X in foreign purchases.
I’m just excited to have a card we can use in the World tour.
Justin, finally, an national card. Yeah. That rewards all these, all these stops, even the occasional speedway head along
Justin Vacula: the way. Ooh. [00:16:00] Soon enough. I think you might get the Hard Rock, MasterCard, and then you could dine at Hard Rock Cafes around the world, as I have using the hard rock unity points in Poland in many other locations.
I like it. I’m curious, I know you have dabbled in some offshore gaming.
Justin Vacula: Ooh.
The three X International is great for folks that travel a lot. Maybe you’re doing some business travel or maybe you’re just an expat lives overseas. It seems like that would be excellent, right? Potentially excellent. You can earn status as well as if you’re using a dining three x or three x international.
I’m curious whether those of us that are gonna be spending most of our time in the US is there an opportunity to spend money overseas, cardo overseas, and how long that, how long does Bank of America will be interested in supporting something like that?
Justin Vacula: Three x uncapped? Maybe it’s not a game breaker at three x.
I know there’s been some consternation, some war on happiness with maybe some creative lift [00:17:00] spend when it was eight x or we had the. Summer of Hilton promos with American Express, where at one point there was a very high return on grocery and there was some adverse actions, some clawbacks, some problems there.
So yeah, we’ll see what happens with the three X and whether they would tolerate action from overseas gambling websites. How that would code, is it going to just code as entertainment? I don’t know. We’ll see whether we make a run at like my Bookie Ag or some of these other sites that yeah, may or may not accept credit cards.
Of course, gamble responsibly, use credit responsibly and be concerned about risk of gambling on these overseas sites that may or may not just steal your money and make up things. So I’m currently not on them, but I have dabbled in the past. Just a
little
Justin Vacula: dabble, just a toe. Yes. And I also have chatted with a friend who’s with a Nerf [00:18:00] business called Blaster Guy.
They buy some stuff from overseas and then resell it. They repackage it in the us. So for some businesses that might do things like that could be a benefit for this card.
I think there’s some benefit here, certainly for the first year, and then depending on what else you have in your wallet, right? So do you need this card and.
Are other cars that bonus at dining. Maybe you’re Seattle based or Hawaii based, in which case it could make a lot of sense to keep this card. Maybe you’re looking to earn status levels, right? Not only with Alaska, but maybe you’re gonna match over to one world status. I think maybe there’s some benefit there and we can talk about that next maybe.
What do you think?
Justin Vacula: Yes. And that three x dining is the 3.3 x. If you have the Bank of America relationship, it seems. Yeah, if these leaks or rumors are correct and the progress towards status, so you get 10 K status points at account anniversary, that’s pretty decent, [00:19:00] but it might be weird because it’s not based on the calendar year.
So if you sign up for this card. In November, and then you’d get the 10 K at the end of the year. That’s not really helpful to get you to the next level then. That’s strange. We’re talking about that with some of the casino cards as well, so you want to time those pretty well. The new MGM iconic card, for example, there’s tier at the signup bonus, so you might wanna wait until January to sign up, whereas in the past, I was saying sign up in December, maybe wait until January.
You get one status point for every $2 in spend, as we mentioned for this Alaska card, and here’s my understanding of the Alaska status levels. I don’t have Alaska status, but this is just what I’m seeing. The MVP status is 20 K tier, so the 10 K status at account anniversary gets you halfway there. And also one world Ruby status, MVP gold is 40 k.[00:20:00]
One World Sapphire Status, MVP Gold. 70 5K is surprise 70 5K. One World Emerald comes with that. MVP, gold 100 K, one World Emerald, and you’re more familiar with the one World program. And you added that to the show notes.
I did. There have been some other cards. I think Justin, you might have one of these cards.
Oh, the cards. Guitar or
Justin Vacula: cutter.
Yeah, the Cutter Cardless card comes with, I believe, gold status to start with, which matches over to one world Sapphire. And the nice thing about that is you get access to business lounges when you’re flying on one world. So there’s some benefit there if you can make it to MVP Gold at 40 k after your first year, as you indicated, you have an A number of all America loves math examples here.
Adjust. Mm-hmm. You get your 10 K anniversary points. And then spend 20 K. [00:21:00] 20 k, is that right?
Justin Vacula: Yes. 20 K status for $2 because why not? Why not make it
right? You gotta make it conflict. You get MVP, which is Ruby, which is fine. You should be able to select preferred seats, which is a nice bonus. You’re flying domestically, certainly.
And then at 60 K Span, that’s the number I was looking for. And you get MVP Gold and that. That matches to or aligns with one world Sapphire. I think there’s probably the sweet spot for a lot of folks there that allows you to access the lounges when you’re flying on one world, as well as the reserve seating and priority boarding and all that sort of stuff.
If you want to go the next level up, like you said with, with 70 5K, I do appreciate how Alaska names them and puts the name in there, so you know, but it’s a big, it’s a big jump in spin, 130 K, 30
Justin Vacula: K in a year, hopefully. We get some big credit limits so we can actually spend this. I was chatting with [00:22:00] Destination Jackpot.
A friend of the show. She got approved for a US Bank card recently and a whopping $3,000 credit limit. Wb. So much for the 0% a PR. Sad Reba for sure. We
want you to use the
Justin Vacula: card, but just not that much,
right?
Justin Vacula: We like you, but not that much. So how about the super extra credit Spend? About 180,000. To get the higher status of MV MVP Gold a hundred K.
Yeah, the math is a little bit wonky here. You’re getting the 10 K and then it’s $2 per status point, so maybe about one 90 K, 180 k, somewhere around there. And then you’re gonna get some from actually flying and maybe some other ways to earn the status.
Yeah, there’s a number of good articles on the different Alaska tiers, if that’s what you’re looking for specifically.
But. Really, they’re only applicable, in my opinion, at least if you’re flying quite a bit on one world or you’re flying and or you’re [00:23:00] flying on Alaska medal. And that’s probably gonna be our West Coast base Listeners.
Justin Vacula: Yes. Hopefully we got the math right. But I know Scott Steiner, Broun Breaker from WWE E, they, they were talking about some Steiner math recently saying you’re 35, you’re 40, you guys are about a hundred.
So I guess we can have a little bit of an allowance here with the math.
If Alaska would take that same approach, you’re about 35, you’re a hundred, I’m good. I’m I’ll be happy to take MPP Gold, 70 5K instead of MPP
Justin Vacula: Gold. I would be wonderful. The dogs are barking, so the card lets you buy status through spend in a way, or you’re getting status as a bonus in addition to the points that you’re earning.
So there’s a bit of an opportunity cost if you’re only getting one X or 1.1 x versus other cards. That might give you 2% everywhere and maybe additional. When you’re making a payment. But for the more intermediate to advanced listeners who have lots and lots of credit cards spend in creative ways, then you’re just going to need more [00:24:00] cards to get more spend in.
So as usual, the answer to everything is more credit cards. I imagine people new to Miles and points are not going to be spending $60,000 on a credit card in a calendar year. You’d probably be better off getting multiple cards and multiple signup bonuses. But for those who have very large spend and spend in creative ways, then maybe it could be worth spending around 60,000 on this card, especially if you get a high credit limit.
But if you get a low credit limit, that can be very dangerous activity. If you cycle your credit limit, you might get shut down for doing that. And by cycling, if they give you a 4K credit limit, you run it up to 4K, you pay it off, you run it up again during the same statement. Banks generally don’t like that, and you can get shut down.
So be careful out there.
Yeah, bank of America, your miles may vary. Of course, bank of America is one of the still few remaining banks that for whatever reason, and maybe personal cards might be different here, but at least on the business side seem to be somewhat tolerant of that. So [00:25:00] I’m, I think anytime that the airline gives us an opportunity to spend our way towards status.
I appreciate what you’re saying about opportunity cost, and I think it’s an important thing to remember. Just the fact they give us a shot, right? We just want that shot. Just gotta give us a shot, Justin. Give us a
Justin Vacula: shot. The situation, uh,
we, yeah, and for those folks that value that status, whether specifically with Alaska or with One World generally now they have a couple options to get there in addition to the cutter card or there was some talk previously of the J card as well, where a variety of ways to spend to get to status.
So I’m happy to hear there’s another potential opportunity here again. We don’t have the public details. This is a leaked link and screenshots, but it, it seems like it has a good framework that is pretty, uh, pretty exciting.
Justin Vacula: It’s definitely appealing and we’ll get into more about this card and more of what we’ve been doing, but a quick break first, if you’re enjoying today’s episode, don’t forget Zork Fest 2025 [00:26:00] coming to Las Vegas, December 5th through the seventh at the M Resort Casino Hotel, Zork Fest, combines miles points and gambling content all in one weekend.
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Justin Vacula: can forget it next time. Again, put it in the show notes.
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Free lounge passes, I think. Pretty interesting. Two wifi passes every quarter, and America wants to know, do they [00:29:00] expire at the end of the quarter? Are they issued every quarter? How do they work? We have time. Will tell.
Can you bank your wifi passes? That’d be nice. I’m just thinking about, yeah, I got five people that call with with me.
Right Thing man
Justin Vacula: situation. Yeah. I was using my Hilton quarterly credits to buy Hilton gift cards and essentially extend them, but of course they took that away. So no more of that. You just go to the Waldorf Astoria in Las Vegas and park in New Jersey before you fly and do some other interesting things.
These Alaska Lounge Day passes, I believe are sold for around $60. I wouldn’t pay $60 to go in an Alaska lounge, but maybe would pay 15 or $20. So eight visits a year potentially for maybe $160 in value per year. Of course, you have to use them. There could be breakage quarter by quarter. Will they just add them to your account and last [00:30:00] through the calendar or membership year.
Time will tell. It’s great. A great
mystery for everyone. Justin?
Justin Vacula: Yes. If you apply for the card on December 20th, do you get the quarterly passes and they just expired December 31 war on Christmas?
Yeah, that’s how it is for American Express Business. Platinum Card, personal Platinum. That HR Dell credits,
Justin Vacula: that’s, we can can also use it to our advantage on the other end.
Oh look, the annual fee posts on December 20th, so then in January we’ll use the benefits. Good old triple dip. Better than triple H. It is, it is, and I’ve liked these lounges. Maybe some people lament the chicken thighs or some people who incorrectly call them chicken ties. It’s nice to have the airport space, uh, quieter place than the boarding area.
The free alcohol as the band ail storm, not to be confused with hailstorm, says the alcohol is free. And [00:31:00] many other perks of the lounge life, a quieter space, drinks food, and more. I really like the Chase Sapphire lounge in Philadelphia. When there was this announcement about American opening a lo new lounge in Philadelphia, I said, who cares?
The Chase Sapphire Lounge is great. So maybe some in Seattle, as you mentioned, or other airports that have the Alaska lounges or perhaps they partner with other airlines, these lounge passes can be nice. Yeah, my wife has family that
live in Alaska, and I think everyone in Alaska has some sort of Alaska card for that free companion pass we talked about earlier.
So it’d be interesting to see how many folks are interested in this as well. I don’t recall entering the Alaska Lounge, but it’s been a number of years since I’ve been up there. The one interesting thing, again about lounges here is if you spend your way to MVP status or MVP Gold at least, and match over to one World Sapphire, you would have access or you will have access.
To the business lounges, as long as you’re flying one world. [00:32:00] So I think that’s, there’s some advantages there. If you’re gonna be spending a lot of time at airports, or you just like to spend time in airport lounges as Justin, I know you like to start your vacation early as possible.
Justin Vacula: Yes. By
getting to the airport as early as possible.
Justin Vacula: Yeah. It’s funny, my Uber driver will sometimes ask, what time is your flight? And I tell them, oh, it sounds like you’re at the airport early. Yep. Going to the lounge. We have some other benefits of this card, the rumored benefits, the leak. A $50 voucher if your Alaska flight is canceled or delayed by two or more hours.
Interesting. And possibly stacking with rebates from Alaska. If you happen to email Alaska and you get a rebate from them, unless they claim that it was out of their control, couldn’t control that. Oh, it was bird strike. Oh, it was an act of God. Oh, it was this. It was that. Potentially a $50 bonus for delays or cancellations.
Waived same day change fees. Normally this would [00:33:00] cost maybe $50 or more to do that. That’s nice. Especially without status. That’s just something you get just for having the card free check bag for you and up to six companions on the same. I itinerary. So family friendly, but is it only Alaska medal? Do you need to book with the credit card?
Are miles bookings eligible? We have questions and hopefully. They have answers. We’ll find out. Waived partner booking fees. So no 1250 fees, no tree 50 fees and the classic TSA precheck and global entry reimbursement every four years because you want more of those?
Yeah, I think I could probably at this point give, give TSA.
Precheck and And global entry to my whole street. It’s holiday season. Yeah. Here’s a postcard
Justin Vacula: from Darren TSA. Yeah. Well the global entry, as far as I [00:34:00] know, waves this whole real ID thing, so that could be nice.
That’s correct. That, it’s funny you mentioned that we, when we dropped my daughter off at college, we gave her global entry cards.
Oh, nice. That she would have real ID available in case. In case she wanted to catch a flight to come back. Or head somewhere else. Yep. I think that’ll be, that’s a, it’s another easy fit. And hypothetically, if you used to pay your bills at Walgreens, it was a nice to have blocks your numbers on there for Walgreens employees, quote
Justin Vacula: unquote.
Yeah. Pay your bills. The manager just comes out of nowhere and starts yelling at you and claiming you’re not supposed to do that. Not in that situation when you that happen to do creative things at photo kiosks that may or may not work anymore. Do you want me, do I I’m just paying bills. Yeah, yeah. Like I, I try to make some phone calls paying bills, and they say, oh, don’t you have a checking account that you could pay this with?
Or you could use our app to make the payment. Oh, no, sorry. I’ve had technical difficulties, that’s why.
Yeah. Yeah, me too.
Justin Vacula: All right. We have companion awards and annual global 20 [00:35:00] 5K companion award, so perhaps a flight that costs fewer than 20 5K miles. Then if you spend $60,000 in a year, you get a Global 100 K companion award.
So that’s on top of earning the status 60 K spend in a year. So for those intermediate to advanced people out there who have a lot of creative spending, high spending, maybe some business owners, that could be interesting. The language suggests that these tie into award redemptions, not cash faires. So that’s good if it can stack with points unlike some other companion faires or passes.
If it’s like a flat discounted points for a second passenger, that could be good. Unlike getting bon void in a way where, oh, you can’t really use this cert because we jacked up the prices of all of our properties. You’re out. Sorry. We’re sorry. So sorry. But again, lots of unknowns. Are certain regions excluded or there blackouts?
What are the dates on this? Dave [00:36:00] Ramsey claimed that you couldn’t fly to Belize using miles and points and that it’s almost impossible to use points. Oh, we gotta call it here. There might be one thing that’s excluded. Oh no, it’s over Darren.
Yeah, I, it’s interesting. I like the idea of these a hundred K, 20 5K the question, like you said, I think the big question in my mind is, will they be basically, I wanna buy, if I wanna book a 30 5K flight, can I use 25 KA PA companion award plus 10 K Alaska miles, or at Ms.
Miles or whatever we’re gonna call it? Ooh, calls out. Yep, yep. Or into the
Justin Vacula: unknown, into the atmosphere. What’s it gonna,
that’s right. Or is it gonna be like some of our hotel awards where. Even if you’re gonna use, you have a limit. Maybe Marriott has a limit, right? You can only add what, 10 or 15 K points on top of certificate.
So yeah, I think that’ll be interesting. I think the other thing with the 60 K spend in a year after your first year, that should get you to MVP Gold, right? Mm-hmm. And it’d be old. I think [00:37:00] you also get, no, I’m wrong, it’s gold. 75 where you get oh, 50 K miles.
Justin Vacula: We’ll let the listeners do the math on that one.
$2. Yeah. Per status point plus minus the 10 K anniversary. Yeah. Yeah. So you gotta catch ’em all. Gotta have all the airlines. Yeah. Gotta catch ’em all. There you go. But this isn’t bad. I think around a $400 annual fee, getting all these benefits, getting the welcome offer. Maybe a keeper card, maybe not, but I think year one.
Is looking really strong and compared to some other cards with the higher commitments, higher annual fees, this seems more mid range in the annual fees. So maybe West Coast frequent Flyers will like this Hawaii vacationers or people in Hawaii going in between islands. Maybe those who like these partner redemptions.
I think Bank of America might be lenient with approvals pulling, probably TransUnion in Pennsylvania, but do check the My FICO [00:38:00] forums for recent data points. I know BOA can sometimes be strict on the business side, and they want you to have a checking account or an existing relationship, or make a security deposit to open a business credit card in some cases and pull hard, pull you twice, and then delay the process and then claim they need to pull you again.
Even though it wasn’t my fault. Oh, classic story. Hypothetically. Hypothetically, but the personal BOA cards, I think the approval was pretty easy. You probably want to be in the mid seven hundreds with your credit scores. Probably TransUnion. Having a BOA personal checking account might help, and that boosts rewards as this rumor or leak suggests.
So maybe sign up for a BOA personal checking account first. A Bank of America personal checking account. Maybe you can also get a 200 or $300 bonus for opening the account, connecting a direct deposit or depositing cash, and then apply for this Alaska credit card. So I think that [00:39:00] there’s a good amount of appeal here.
Maybe if you fly Alaska or Hawaiian at least a few times a year, you want status, you’ll use the lounges, the bag benefits, the wifi passes. Or you could use your Dell credits and get a Nintendo Switch and play that or your, there you go, your, you want these premium cabin awards on partners. I think, again, at least good for year one and you could decide about a keep, cancel or downgrade later.
So what? Probably skip it if you aren’t going to fly Alaska. I think that’s pretty obvious. If you already have higher annual fee cards with lounge coverage, so there is a little bit of redundancy. Does the Alaska Lounge really matter to me if I have access to many others and they’re in those same airports?
If you’re not interested in the fixed currency. So we do like flexible points. You could transfer to many programs, but with this, it’s stuck in Alaska. And I think if you’re early on in the game, maybe you wouldn’t want to get this [00:40:00] card, maybe you would prioritize. Chase Cards. Capital One Venture, Barclays.
And the question is, Darren, might it be worth a Chase 5 24 slot and can you quickly explain the Chase 5 24
rule? So Chase in their infinite wisdom and try to deter the Turners, not you and I. Justin, of course, would like you only to have five credit cards, personal credit cards in a 24 month time period.
So you can only apply for five credit cards. So. Those slots become pretty valuable as the folks know, and we’ve talked about on the show before. We sometimes go through these aamas where in a short period of time we apply for a number of credit cards and to try to accrue those signup bonuses. Chase doesn’t want us to do that.
Yeah. So the question, is it worth it? And I don’t know, man, like it depends, right? Yeah. I think for you and me, I think we’re well past and so [00:41:00] even if we’re thinking about holding back. Trying to get under 5 24, I’d certainly make it part of the next aara should we get there? And back to 5 24. Again.
Alternatively, if you’re early on, again, I would encourage you, if you’re thinking about taking a trip, if you have a trip planned or you’re planning, but have not purchased tickets yet, again, get on the Alaska app or on the website, click miles, redemption and put in some city pairs and see what that looks like for you.
And if you can get, uh, you get where you need to go for a hundred k and. Maybe you get free wifi on the flight. I think that has a lot of value to a lot of folks. And so I, I think this is gonna be a pretty popular card, even at the $400 annual fee level. Now, whether I’ll renew it. So full disclosure, I’m planning on flying if it comes in.
Anything close to this.
Justin Vacula: Oh, all right. Yep.
I’m in, I’m all in Justin in, so it’s gonna
Justin Vacula: be the Alaska Premium card, the MGM iconic, the Caesars Prestige at least three in the next aara, [00:42:00] hopefully six or seven.
Probably not the City
Justin Vacula: Prestige. No, the Caesar’s Prestige. Oh, Caesar’s
Prestige. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we’ll see.
Justin Vacula: Yeah. Caesar’s Community slash Bread Financial. Yeah. I’d love to get Citi cards, but unfortunately, yeah, they don’t like, they don’t love me to get Citi cards. Let’s say Lifetime Achievement Awards. Lifetime Achievement Award. Yes. Yes. Yeah. And a Capital One Venture X would be nice too. That’s all I want for Christmas is a Capital One Venture X.
But they’re not approving us either because we’re just too deep. Our credit profiles too thick.
Think they should open their minds. I think thick credit profiles have some advantages. We’re gonna spend lots of money with their cards and,
Justin Vacula: uh, lots, lots of spend. Yeah, we’re gonna
get those transaction fees.
Yeah. Maybe lots
Justin Vacula: of F Nova Group spend as well. Everybody. And that’s Nova Group. Yeah. Yeah. That would go with the Atmos after. There you go. Supernova. I like it. I was listening to the band I-I-S-O-N and they have a lot of space themed music, so. Maybe this works out for the [00:43:00] Alaska. It could be on that playlist if you get your free Spotify premium through the My Vegas games.
That’s been a recent thing. All the, there we go. All the deals. All the deals stack. That’s good. That’s good. So you’re on board. If the real card, the real release comes out, something close to this, I will very likely get it. But I recently Aara in July, so I might have to wait until January to get this card, which might make sense anyway that the 10 k.
Anniversary bonus posts at the beginning of the year rather than mid to late year. We’re recording August 17th, 2025, so if we get a 10 K tier boost towards the end of the year, that’s probably not going to be meaningful. No,
probably not. Yeah, it’ll be interesting to see the timing on this rollout. Yeah, I’m with you.
I just, it’s so ridiculous.
Justin Vacula: It releases December 1st and then everybody says, oh, I’m just gonna wait until January to get the. 10 K bonus anniversary status. What a, what a silly thing. Like the bad rollout of [00:44:00] the New Caesars credit card. You, you can’t apply for the new card if you have the old one and then you just couldn’t upgrade.
And then customer service telling me to call customer service, but Bank of America is not the best with tech and the whole bill pay system is horrible. So hopefully BOA upgrades their technology and does sensible things with the release of this card. Confidence in Bank of America, I really don’t. I have more confidence in Bank of Popular Day.
Puerto Rico. Really? Sorry. BOA. Yeah. I guess we’ve ruined that show
sponsorship, but that’s okay. Yeah. Yeah. And it’s, some folks are still reporting the opportunity to pay BOA with a rewards earning debit card. It takes them work, some social engineering, some life support. Yeah. Yeah, it’s definitely in, in the ICU, that’s for sure.
But it’s still there. There’s still some data points out there. Whatever those earnings are on this card, it’s BOA card. Could you add 2% on top maybe. Again, I think there’s a lot of, for me, especially a lot of, a lot of benefits to this card. Again, [00:45:00] Alaska is not, the only other way to accrue Alaska miles is, is spend on the other two Alaska cards or transfer from built.
They have not had a transfer bonus like they’ve had for other airline miles. Otherwise, I would have zero bill points at this point, point dump all in there. I did dump a bunch in through Hawaiian, but for me, who doesn’t have access to American Airlines Miles and living in, uh, in Philly or flying outta Philly Fair bit, a airline, American Airlines hub, having this alternative is really valuable for me.
And like you said, the international redemptions are really valuable as well, so. I’m continuing to accrue a lot of Alaska Miles. Alaska’s been a valuable airline partner for a long time, and I anticipate it’ll stay like that, at least in the intermediate term here, as they have an obligation, it seems as if an obligation to maintain value of their points as part of the merger deal with Hawaii.
So hopefully that stays that way.
Justin Vacula: I think there’s lots of promise here. I think one of the more [00:46:00] interesting airline cards. That has launched in recent years. I think this can be a good card, even with an annual fee, about $400, I think a clear winner for year one for many, and then we’ll just have to make the keep cancel, downgrade decision in year two.
But it might be worth keeping it, especially if the status is available and you’ll fly Alaska a good amounts. Yep. Agreed. Alright, so closing here. We mentioned in the beginning that you were traveling, so where were you? What were you doing? How did you book it? All that?
Yeah, sure. Yeah. I actually had two separate one week trips earlier in July and into August, and the first was a family trip.
So my, myself, my wife, and our daughters flew to Greece, air France. Again, not the cheapest way to get from New York or the East coast of the United States to Athens, Greece. But it does consistently have five seats in business, is what we were looking for. So unfortunately, we [00:47:00] did not fly the new updated seats, but the old seats were still live flat.
And really what I’m looking for when I’m gonna cross the pond is to catch a couple of hours of sleep. That when I get to my final destination, I can stay up, I can spend a few hours, and then pretty quickly adjust to the new time and not get much of that jet lag. Those were transfers from membership rewards, Amex membership rewards to Air France.
We flew JFK, Charles Dega to Athens both ways. While in Athens, we spent some time of course in Athens seeing the Acropolis. We drove out to Delphi, where the famous Oracle predicted many things and gave some sage advice depending on who you’re rooting for. I guess back in the day, a lot of museums, which my oldest daughter really enjoyed, and my wife and I did as well.
And then the two younger ones really liked spending time in on the beach, and so we, we found a little island called Hydra, or Edra, pretty close to Athens by Ferry, where they don’t have any cars. It’s a small [00:48:00] island. They use the donkeys or mules to transport most of the cargo and the luggage. Really enjoyed that.
It was a great place to swim and relax for a couple days, and then came home, went back to work for a week, and then my wife and I went to Bon Air, which is one of the three islands off the coast of Venezuela. The A, B, C, Irelands, Aruba, Bon Air, and Curaao. Bon Air is probably most famous for its scuba diving, and that’s what we did.
So spent a week diving and catching up for our 20th anniversary. So really enjoyed that. We booked that with good old Justin. I finally got rid of United Travel Bank. No. Oh, that would’ve, that’d have been even better. That’d been even better. Cry an
Justin Vacula: air to the A, B, C that’ve been awesome. Yeah, no. Oh, unit travel bank.
All right. That would’ve been number two. Travel Bank, family Feud. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Yeah. We’re happy to do that. Splurged a little bit there. Flew up front to both my wife and I and had a wonderful trip. There are not a lot of [00:49:00] points, hotel options on the island. There’s actually one, I think that just became a Hilton property and maybe some SLH properties, but we stayed in a independent place called Bamboo.
Bamboo bon air. Oh, easy for me to say. Lots of, yeah. Easy for me to say. Lots of, yeah. Yeah. A boutique property. That was the other bee I was struggling with. Okay. And, and I had a wonderful time there. Did you bring, did you a blanket as well? Yeah, we did. We did, yeah. Oh, okay. You just took ’em off the flight?
Took ’em off the flight. We did not took, take any flights off. No, no blankets off the, ended up cashing out some united, or, excuse me, ended up cashing out some US bank. Travel rewards through through F Nova and other sort of taxi opportunities and just paying for it that way. So that worked out fine as there were very good point options.
So that’s been my travel. We, we just dropped oldest daughter off in college, actually used some more US bank travel rewards redemptions there. There were no point hotels remaining, as you might imagine on move in [00:50:00] weekend in college. Yep. We did not have our acts together and I usually would’ve booked ahead separate nights and then just canceled whatever I didn’t need, but.
We’re able to get one through their travel reward center and, and some cash in some points there. So that worked out well.
Justin Vacula: Oh geez. You might actually keep the altitude reserve because you, I know, that’s what I’m saying. Oh, I know. We’ll,
prob I think we’ll probably keep one, 3% is still pretty good. Even if it’s, if, even if we don’t get the rewards like we used to.
And of course the cap will be challenging, but for organic spend, I think it’s still a useful card. I know Justin, I know it’s not fully optimized. It’s multiple
Justin Vacula: devaluations
on the card. It makes it, it is. It
Justin Vacula: makes me a very sad penda. Can’t it all? It’s not personal. It’s not personal. You can’t take a personal, gotta find the value.
It’s like my second favorite credit card. I knew I promoted. That’s my so much. And they didn’t even give me a referral link or anything. I still have the original box with the magnet on it.
Yeah. Yeah. It’s a great, it’s a great little writing tablet in your car, hypothetically, [00:51:00] filling out money orders while you’re driving around.
Yes, of course. Yes. Or a
Justin Vacula: Fulton Bank drive through because closed the lobby. Exactly. Yeah. I could do the archeological dig. Oh look, this is box from 10 years ago. Oh, what’s that about? We did some footprint back in the day. Yeah,
we did in March days.
Justin Vacula: We used to go to Walgreens and.
Uh, the good old days. Yeah.
Yeah. Always fun with
Justin Vacula: the hobby and that’s what keeps me going. People ask, oh, you’ve been doing this for a while, and how’s it hold up? I say, it’s still have fun. This is, it’s cool. It’s cool to be on here and travel and chat and.
And there’s always more stuff, right? As they say, when, when city closes a door chase opens a window, right?
That thing goes So it And an an arcade
Justin Vacula: in Philadelphia Airport. Yeah.
Yeah. And yeah, exactly. We talk about this new card. You and I, yeah. We’ve been using some of these cards and really leveraging their value for years. Now all good things eventually come to an end. And so the opportunity to, yeah, to open.
Open new cards, find new opportunities, leverage new plays. Continue to be able to travel at lower no cost. Yeah, there, I think that’s the [00:52:00] line. So
Justin Vacula: the situation of what happened and everything else, that’s what dictates that.
That’s exactly right.
Justin Vacula: And I’ll be traveling, I’m going to Atlantic City, August 25th through the 29th, there’s going to be another 10 X tier credit multiplier.
So my ascension towards seven stars and maybe or maybe not with the atmos and in the atmosphere and the strata. That all continues. So video poker in Atlantic City, August 25th to the 29th, I will not be playing poker at Borg Gata because they once again raised the rake. They eliminated multiple tables from their poker room and they made the cage situation even worse.
I reluctantly have been going to the Borgata poker room and I come in thinking, wow, this place gets worse every time I go here. And it just keeps getting worse. So I played one orbit. I saw the dealer take additional rake. I asked about it. They said the rake was raised and I cashed out and the player said, are you serious?
Yes, I’m [00:53:00] serious. It’s over Borgata, but video don’t call me serious. No. Super serial. Yeah. So Atlantic City, August 25th to 29th. I love you, MGM Rewards, but Borgata Poker, the second worst poker room I’ve ever played in no exaggeration. It’s just so poorly run. And they don’t wanna change it. It just keeps getting worse.
So no more, you think? US Bank hired
Borgata Poker customer service to evaluate their card strategy. They removed tables, multiple evaluation.
Justin Vacula: They combined the poker room with horse racing and the windows are now shared with the horse betters. So the cage has always been a problem because it’s not been adequately staffed.
Sometimes they just close the cage and you have to walk across the casino to cash out. You have to buy in at the tables and then the floor says, oh, we have chip burners now. Okay, that’s still a problem. The cage isn’t open. So Atlantic City, August 25th to 29th, and I’ll also be attending the FT. Events Loyalty Summit and Awards Dinner [00:54:00] and the FT Awards in Chicago this September.
That’s Frequent Traveler University, the Frequent Traveler Education Foundation, the FTEF. I’ll be working more with them in Frequent Traveler University, and I’m now a board member with the Frequent Traveler Education Foundations. Congratulations. Thanks. Stay tuned for future announcements about that.
More information. And I was on the Frequent Traveler University YouTube channel on a cruise news episode, talking about my many cruises this year, seven cruises this year, so it’s been quite a ride. I’ve uploaded all the cruise content to my Hery Gordy Travel podcast, YouTube channel as well, the recent Alaska cruise, the Norway Cruise, Amsterdam, and Rotterdam as well.
So lots of videos up there in between podcast episodes.
Yeah, I know you’ve been cruising full here lately, so I’ve been fun to watch and follow you along as you’re traveling the world.
Justin Vacula: Travel at low [00:55:00] cost with points in my, I’ll take up singing at a later time, perhaps. Thanks for joining me Darren.
Thanks for having me, Justin.
It’s always good to catch up and I look forward to catching up again
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