Justin Vacula welcomes back Carissa Rawson from Rove Miles to break down Rove’s newest transfer partner, Miles & More, and the sweet spots you should know.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro to Hurdy Gurdy Travel Podcast
00:44 Guest intro: Carissa Rawson, Rove Miles
02:31 New transfer partner: Miles & More
05:14 Why Miles & More matters and standout uses
11:26 Upcoming events and conferences to watch
14:55 Support, sponsors
16:13 Booking nights at Rio in Las Vegas
16:40 Rove + Rio benefits and on-property plays
17:52 Maximizing points and elite night credits
18:43 Rove updates and roadmap
21:01 Personal travel wins
22:01 Timely promos and limited offers
23:21 Fresh ideas and future prospects
25:34 Closing thoughts and next trips
28:38 Where to find more and support the show
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Theme Song: [00:00:00] Travel at low cost with points and miles. Credit card rewards bring the smiles. Many adventures tales to be told, make and save money, the world will unfold.
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Justin Vacula: You’re listening to the Hurdy Gurdy Travel Podcast. I’m your host, Justin Vacula, here to help you make money, save money, and travel the world at next to no cost with credit card points, miles, benefits, and loyalty programs. Returning guest, Carissa Rawson joins me to chat about what’s new at Rove Miles: A new transfer partner with several member airlines.
Visit meetup.com/PhillyMilesAndPoints to RSVP for monthly Greater Philadelphia travel [00:01:00] credit Miles and points meetups I host in Willow Grove, Pennsylvania. The next meetups are November 23rd and December 21st, 2025. Find a link in the show notes. For more content between shows, follow Hurdy Gurdy Travel Podcast on Facebook and x.
Find Justin Vacula on Instagram. Subscribe to Hurdy Gurdy Travel podcast on YouTube for daily content, including travel videos, podcast clips and posts. Find more information including select episode transcripts at HurdyGurdyTravel.com. on with today’s episode recorded, October 30th, 2025. Welcome back to the show, Carissa Rawson.
Carrisa Rawson: Hey, thanks for having me.
Justin Vacula: You’re here with Rove Miles. For those who haven’t listened to past episodes or are unfamiliar with Rove, can you give us a quick introduction to Rove?
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah, so Rove launched, actually, we just had our six month subversively. So road launch in April this year, it is a flexible rewards program [00:02:00] that does not rely on a credit card, right?
So historically, in order to earn like transferable points, you need something like an Amex card, chase card, Citi card, et cetera. Technically built does allow you to earn miles that you can transfer out of card. So roads allows you to earn the road miles by looking travel or doing online shopping, and then you can transfer it out to any of our hotel and airline partners or just like bridging on the platform.
So it’s like a really easy way to earn. Buckets and buckets of transferable rewards for not a lot of money, not a lot of effort.
Justin Vacula: Great. And you’re here today with a press release, some new information. We’re recording October 30th, but this will come out on November 3rd. So tell us what is the new news?
Carrisa Rawson: I am so excited to tell you guys, um, that we are announcing our newest transfer partner.
Which is Miles and more. And anyone who’s not familiar with Miles and more really should be. It is the loyalty program of nine different airlines, including Lufthansa, Swiss Austrian, [00:03:00] Brussels Airlines, ITT Air Raids, air Doublet, Lux Air CRO Airlines in Euro Wings. So the biggest loyalty program in Europe.
And so far, and for the foreseeable future at least, we are the only US transfer prior. You won’t find them on Amex or anybody else.
Justin Vacula: Nice. And these will transfer at a one-to-one ratio, is that right?
Carrisa Rawson: Yep, that’s right.
Justin Vacula: So 1000 row miles for 1000 miles and more miles or points. That’s actually, that’s
Carrisa Rawson: how they call themselves.
Miles and more. Miles.
Justin Vacula: Miles and more miles. That’s an easy America loves math moment. It’s not like some of the Capital One, one for 0.7 or some other silly numbers.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah, we managed to secure the one-to-one. So your conversions will be very simple.
Justin Vacula: Ah, nice. Welcome
Carrisa Rawson: America.
Justin Vacula: Yes. Very easy math there, so I’m sure listeners will appreciate that one.
And transfer times can vary, but the transfers from Rove two [00:04:00] miles and more should be instant.
Carrisa Rawson: Yes, they should.
Justin Vacula: For those that don’t already have a miles and more, might it be good advice to make one well before transferring? Sometimes these new accounts will take some verification or transfers might take a longer time.
Carrisa Rawson: We don’t have anything that should impact, that aren’t any like IES to have something like that. The funds that, or sorry, miles and More doesn’t have that. It’s always good practice just to have an account available so it sees and if when you need it. So I’d say, yeah, open an account, but even if you delay.
It should not be an issue.
Justin Vacula: I’ve had some problems with verification on new accounts. One of them, my birthday was Switch, so it had the day and then the month. But the dropdown menu when I signed up didn’t say whether it was the day or the month. So I had to go through all these verifications. Nice to, I think, open these earlier and then have the accounts ready for when you want use them.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah, absolutely.
Justin Vacula: And this is unprecedented value for US-based customers whose access to the Miles and more program has [00:05:00] been. Minimal said CEO and co-founder of Rove, max Morgan Rock.
Carrisa Rawson: You wanna know why it’s so cool? Tell us.
Justin Vacula: Tell us for you.
Carrisa Rawson: Okay. Alright. So like I can tell you guys Oh cool. Miles and Moore, but like why is that a big deal?
Prior to us joining forces with Miles and Moore, I had written quite a lot about the monthly mileage bargains, which they have, which give 55,000 round trip business plans between the US and Europe. And that’s like fine. But there are two key things which are absolutely insane. When you look at Miles Moore, so f first of all, this Miles Moore is directly searchable Living Rose platform.
So we do offer live searches with the flight. So you can see like the redeeming, how much it’ll cost, whether you’re pay in cash, whether you’re paying road miles, or whether you’re transferring to Miles Moore. You can also use Seats Arrow. And I think Seats. Arrow is a really good, ex, does a really good job at illustrating how ridiculous it is.
Because you can go on CS Arrow and you go to the miles more search feature. You can load up a hundred results and serve by cheapest economy and you will [00:06:00] find 2, 3, 4, 500 flights that are 88 miles US to Europe one way.
Justin Vacula: Oh wow. So this is, yeah, 88 seats, arrow. For those that might not know, it’s an award booking tool to help you find flights.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah, so the fact that it’s sub 100 miles to book a transit Atlantic flight is insane. Obviously, you’re on the hook for fees, and they do tend to leverage higher taxes and fees. There’ll be a La Virgin Atlantic, which also passes along by high surcharges, but you’ll find this 88 mile rate even from traditionally cash expensive airports like Atlanta or the West Coast, something like that.
So the fact that you can get, for example, from LA to Frankfurt on a nonstop for 88 miles, a comparable pricing would be. 7,000, something like that. It blows my mind. It really does. Something else that’s very cool about Miles and Moore, and this is something I have personal experience with, is that they generally [00:07:00] restricts the hanza first class award space that they hand out to partners.
But availability is generally pretty good when redeeming miles and more miles. So you won’t need to set alerts anymore. You don’t have to check the. 14 day window. Or the three day window, or the one day window. Whenever they finally decide they can’t sell the scene on their own program, you can just transfer right to row and book the first class C, the ever elusive first class seat of your dreams, which is very cool.
Justin Vacula: I like it. And today it’s a theme of a lot of M’s. Max. Yes. Morgan Roth. Miles and more. Miles. Miles. That sounds pretty good. Usually we’re a fan of the Ps with Purple Princess Pari past podcast guest from the Netflix show, ‘Love On the Spectrum,’ so shout out to Pari, of course, in Boston with the MBTA, the Massachusetts Bay Transit Authority.
So now even more options for travel with miles and more. The press release says here, a world of exclusive travel rewards with the ability to seamlessly convert road miles into one of [00:08:00] Europe’s leading frequent flyer currencies. Rove is offering unrivaled access to more airlines, more upgrades, and more choice.
It’s the smartest way to reward travel.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah, absolutely. I’m really excited about it. I don’t know how much context you or anyone who’s listening has about Miles and more. In 2019, I believe it was 3 20 19, there were actually US transfer partners two miles and more, but an interpretation of a German ball.
Don’t quote me on that. A European law, at any rate, made it so that all the US space had to drop miles and more as a partner. And that’s just essentially was something to do with, you can’t sell miles, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right? You’re not allowed to allow consumers to buy miles, and essentially when you’re tied to a credit card, it’s viewed, or at least that interpretation, viewed it as some form of that.
But the reason that Rogue gets to do it is because we don’t have a credit card, and we have a lot of people asking us, are you gonna get [00:09:00] a credit card? Are you gonna open it? Are you gonna have one launch? And this is a perfect example of why we don’t wanna do that. Because if we had a credit card, we wouldn’t be able to have miles and more.
We managed to sneak in under that by avoiding the trick, the pitfalls of a credit card,
Justin Vacula: a good business decision. And of course, you compare credit cards with RO Miles, that’s no problem. And recently the Chase Sapphire Reserve has changed some of the earnings where you’re earning extra points for direct bookings with flights, direct bookings with hotels.
Maybe that’s an option. Or the City Premier or the Strata Premier. Now for three X Travel, even the Amtrak annual fee credit card, I was looking at two x on travel or the Amex green card for three x, although I think that’s a clunker for the most.
Carrisa Rawson: You know, it’s interesting also, and I hadn’t thought about this previously.
The Wells Fargo autograph journey does five x and hotels, and so road codes is 7 0 1 1, which is hotels in resorts. So you can get five x Wells Fargo rewards. [00:10:00] If you’re gonna book on row, and you know what? I had a look at their transfer partner list the other day, and while it is minimal, everyone is good.
Even they added JetBlue this week. And so having JetBlue as a partner, being able to earn five X Wells Fargo rewards, plus however many X drove miles when they’re transferring to Jet Blue, that’s a good deal. You know what I mean?
Justin Vacula: And potentially United Flights book their JetBlue. Although so far I haven’t seen many great redemptions on that, but more options.
Good. And that’s the merchant category code. You said the MCC Some more M’S for the episode. The other row of transfer partners include Aero Mexico Rewards, A Core Live Limitless Air France KLM Flying Blue Air India Maharaja Club, if I got that correct. Kafe Pacific Asia Miles. Eddie Hod Guest Fin Air plus Nan Airlines Fortune Wings Club.
I like that one. We have Miles and Moore, of course. Qatar Airways, privilege Club, Thai Airways, Royal Orchid Plus Turkish Airlines. [00:11:00] Miles and Miles and Vietnam Airlines, Lotus Miles.
Carrisa Rawson: Yep. Those are all of our, now it’s 13 hotel airline partners with more coming.
Justin Vacula: The party is growing.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah. I gotta tell you, I’ve been going to all of these conferences doing my absolute best to.
Has excellent and productive meetings with a lot of hotel and airline executives, and honestly, so far so good. It’s going well.
Justin Vacula: All right, and speaking of conferences, let’s take a quick break for upcoming events and messages from our sponsors. Join me and Carissa at Zork Fest 2025 in Las Vegas, December 5th through the seventh at M Resort Casino Hotel. Zork Fest, combines miles points and gambling content all in one weekend.
I’ll be there speaking and connecting with podcast listeners. Buy your ticket at zorkfest.travelzork.com using the promo code HurdyGurdy to support the show. And recently I posted an event for December 4th, [00:12:00] meeting at Vanderpump inside Paris, Caesars Casino, and we’re intending to use our Chase Sapphire Reserve exclusive tables benefit.
So $150 ahead with this benefit. We have five RSVPs so far, and potentially more after this episode. So I think this is going to be interesting getting more than maybe a thousand dollars worth of food.
Carrisa Rawson: We’re gonna need a bigger table,
Justin Vacula: maybe several tables. We’ll see how it goes down, but I’m encouraging everyone to book their own reservations because in the past there have been some issues that everyone showing up and they’ll want everybody on the same check and all this.
So we’ll see how it turns out. But even if we have to sit separately, I guess we could just hang out around the bar area. That is on meetup.com/philly Miles and points, the group that I host in Willow Grove, Pennsylvania, but why not add some other social events. But in Willow Grove, the next meetups are November 23rd and December 21st, 2025.
That’s meetup.com/philly. Miles [00:13:00] and points, and you’ll be speaking at Zork Fest as well.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah, I will be so, I should be good.
Justin Vacula: And we have Chicago Seminars, Hyatt Regency O’Hare, November 7th through the ninth, 2025. Also, promo code HurdyGurdy when buying a ticket, you’ll be there.
Carrisa Rawson: I will, I’ll be speaking as well.
And if anyone wants to come, I’ll give a plug. We’re having a, an after party on Saturday at 8 45 in our insiders Rove Insiders Facebook group. You can RSVP. I know Justin I’m already convinced you to come.
Justin Vacula: Oh yes.
Carrisa Rawson: Hopefully you’ll be able to make it, but it, it should be a really good time.
Justin Vacula: And that’s the Rove Insiders Facebook group,
Carrisa Rawson: correct.
Justin Vacula: Next, the event, formerly known as Chicago Seminars heritage Edition at Holiday Inn will be called the Chicago Points Travel Festival, held October 16th through the 18th, 2026. There is an early bird discount at the moment. We’re recording here October 30th. Use promo code [00:14:00] HurdyGurdy $60 off through November 1st.
Maybe some time traveling here and 40, $40 off November 1st through the 30th. So you can capture your $40 discount using the promo code HurdyGurdy. So maybe you will too will be at the festival next year.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah. I love, I didn’t realize they had a name change. Oh, that’s, it’s really breaking news for
Justin Vacula: you too.
Yeah, it’s
Carrisa Rawson: good because I bet it’s been. Very confusing speaking to everybody I know and be like, are you gonna Chicago seminars. Okay. Which, so let’s go. I’m glad that’s happening. I’ll put it in my calendar. ’cause I was really bummed not to be able to go this year.
Justin Vacula: Nice. You got hit with the Travel hackers dilemma again.
Travel interfering with other travel. Yeah, I know.
Carrisa Rawson: It’s all for a good cause, right? Like yes. Whatever I can do.
Justin Vacula: Unfortunately I had to miss FTU Dallas last year because I had a princess cruise booked, so it happens.
Carrisa Rawson: Hey, me too. I was on a virgin cruise though.
Justin Vacula: Oh. Different ship. So,
Carrisa Rawson: yeah. It’s funny.
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Just aside Dallas May 1st through the third 2026 at the Nylo Las Colinas Hotel by Hilton. Join me, Carissa, and other community members for social events and educational sessions. Ticket sales are live $200 for FTU members and $249 for non-members. You can grab an FTU annual membership for online courses,
seminars, member perks, event discounts, and more. The signup link for membership and FTU Dallas is in the show notes. We’ll see you in Dallas or Irving. You’re already announced as one of the speakers. Yes.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah, I’m
Justin Vacula: pretty sure I
Carrisa Rawson: am.
Justin Vacula: Alright, [00:16:00] excellent. We’ll get back into it. So some quick hits for Rove here.
So let’s talk about accumulating Rove miles. I think one really interesting opportunity here is we’re headed towards the end of 2025. Is booking Knights at Rio in Las Vegas. Now, since Rove has the loyalty eligible stays, you can book Rio through the Rove portal and still get Hyatt qualifying Knights status benefits and more.
So some people wanna get their remaining knight for Hyatt globalist status in 2025, and I think it’s super appealing in January to return to Vegas, which is typically lower rates in this off season. Tell us about Rove and Rio Las Vegas.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah, so actually Hyatt is one of our best programs currently. We, it’s, uh, loyalty eligible and it allows you to use Rove’s platform to book direct hotels days with big chains and rates are pretty competitive version one.
Some of our hotel [00:17:00] chains had member rates, some didn’t, Hyatt does and version two will be launching here pretty soon. But version one is still live, and so you can basically go to rogue miles.com, type in Las Vegas, and Rio will pop up with the member rate. Right now, your mileage may vary, but I don’t think, for example, Rio often has those like get 3000 extra bonus points rates.
You probably will be seeing those on ro, but you will be seeing at least the member rate and not an inflated price point. So it’s a really good way. We have 10 X road miles per dollar spent through October 31st, which will it expired by the time of this podcast, more time travel podcast is released.
Justin Vacula: Yeah, sorry
Carrisa Rawson: about that.
But, but we intend to bring that back as a promotion. I’ll say this, but for the end of the year. So keep your ears peeled, guests at eyes for when we bring that back to make sure that you book your 10 x stays while it’s available. And yeah, it’s a really good way. To generate higher points, high Elite night credits.
Get your elite night credits for [00:18:00] globalist. Nice. And also maximize your Running smiles using Rio.
Justin Vacula: Yes, we’ll definitely keep our ears and eyes peeled. I guess we can do a fun AI image of that, like ears of corn and eyes. So any listeners in the comments. So you wanna send your fun images. That’s always good.
We appreciate hearing back from listeners. Yeah. I found many nights at Rio. That we might call Rove Nights, going for Rove Rio Nights for maybe 30, $40 a night. So having the high globalist status, weaves the resort fee and gives you complimentary breakfast for two at Hash House a go go. So I think a really great way to earn high qualifying nights, spend some time in Las Vegas and continue traveling.
Carrisa Rawson: So, version one, so again, version two is very nearly out, so this won’t be like a consideration right along, but version one. This is really important for people to know. If you have globalist status, you are entitled to have your resort fees valued. But in version one, if you book [00:19:00] on Rogue to get your 10 x or five x or what have you, you are gonna prepay your resort fees, and then when you get to the hotel and you have to have them request to refund, and then it gets refunded back to you, that’s an annoying pain point.
It’s important to know that you’re not like losing out on your waived fees. Shortly, it’ll be irrelevant because again, version seal will not have an issue. But yeah, I wanna make sure that everybody is aware going in, that’s what’s happening.
Justin Vacula: Okay, so any timeline for version two?
Carrisa Rawson: I asked the CEO yesterday and within the next week.
Two weeks.
Justin Vacula: Okay.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah, it’s very slightly pushed back just because we have the miles and more partnership launching on November 3rd. But it is active. It’s, we already have it. We’re just making sure that we don’t have a ton of bunks when we launch it. So it’s like it’s coming right out. So it’s not, oh no, but by the end of the year it’s coming right out.
Justin Vacula: Good. So we should be way good for 20, 26 stays then.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah, [00:20:00] absolutely. And also at that point, version two, the hotel will be merchant of record. So the co-branded credit cards that you have, for example. Will once again be the most rewarding ways to pay. For example, and the best example for this is that you have the Hilton Honors Aspire Card, which offers some ridiculous amount back when you book on Hilton.
You’ll be able to stack that with Grove instead of using Grove as the merchant of record, which would have those like also Autograph journey, et cetera, et cetera. It’ll be whatever maximizes your hotel chain specific spending.
Justin Vacula: It’s good to hear RO is making good business decisions to improve, rather than just saying, oh, it’s just gonna be general hotel.
It won’t be loyalty eligible. So good to hear about all these positive changes and features coming.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah, the goal is to give the best user experience and obviously we’re all points of Miles people here, so being able to give that to our users, including me, that’s best case scenario. So if we can do it, we will.[00:21:00]
Justin Vacula: Great, and I’ve seen you several times. I remember a time where I just happened to be walking down the hallway. I didn’t even know you were there and you saw me. Justin, what are you doing here? Oh, yeah, at the, yeah, there’s like a pinky in the brain moment. The same thing we’re doing every night.
Carrisa Rawson: Yes, absolutely.
Justin Vacula: Yeah. Just didn’t accidentally stumble into Rio. I know.
Carrisa Rawson: I guess the odds of finding a globalist at the Rio Mattress running, they’re higher than us, like randomly stumbling into each other and say Paris, but still pretty unusual. Especially at the same time in the same lobby.
Justin Vacula: Yes. I saw Tom Kim of the Omics podcast in Amsterdam.
I was on a Hyatt shuttle and he was outside waiting for the shuttle, so that was funny. Quite, quite interesting.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah. I saw Alison Caraway with 18 1 0 1, this award,
Justin Vacula: travel 1 0 1.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah, I saw her at the Capital One Lodge in Dallas. I guess the odds are higher than zero, right? ’cause these are the places we frequent.
Justin Vacula: Yeah. Eventually roll the dice enough and [00:22:00] it’ll work out. Mm-hmm.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah. So we have three x on gift cards, dot com, visa, MasterCard, gift cards. I’ve also, again, I plugged remote insiders on Facebook because that’s where I do a lot of my, I ask everybody what they want and then I do my very best to give it. I just did a survey because I’m the person who designs, for example, the shopping promos that we have on Rove, like the gift cards.com thing.
And so I did a poll. Asking people what sort of elevated offers they wanted to see. And far in a way, the winner was an accelerated earnings on airline gift cards. So that’ll be coming up in the next couple of weeks, actually, November 14th, when that will be launching our next shopping promo. So you wanna watch out for that And that one.
So elevated offerings on airline gift cards, which is really cool. We also have, of course, like card linked offers, which is another feature we’re, we’re rolling out. I know I’ve talked about it before, but it’s essentially once you link your credit card to a row, like in your row wallet. Whenever you pay in store for shopping at 20,000 different merchants, or if you do the dining, you’ll automatically earn roadmaps.
That’s also coming out [00:23:00] very soon. Hopefully within the next month it’ll be out, and our app is also in beta testing.
Justin Vacula: I would still think that the number one request would be either in in-store offers that if you could link your credit card and get extra points for shopping at places like Kroger Giant, Pennsylvania, Safeway.
Et cetera. I think that’d be an extremely appealing thing for people, you know, and
Carrisa Rawson: I was, I had a meeting earlier today, and this is something I’m gonna try and I’m gonna try and get involved in. How cool would it be if your fuel points could become Rove labs?
Justin Vacula: Oh wow. Yeah. If I could transfer out and not have redeem for groceries and have stacks of Q-tips and printer paper, that’d be cool.
Carrisa Rawson: Cooking with fire. So a nice problem to
Justin Vacula: have though, I must say. But at some point it gets a little silly with all the grocery rewards.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah, so I’ll, I’m gonna try my best and see if I can get something with that working, but yeah, that would be pretty cool.
Justin Vacula: We have seen things like that with Safeway before where they had a partnership with [00:24:00] Alaska Airlines, at least in some regions or places.
And I think we’ve seen some united linking here and there, but these are usually spotty, so it’d be nice to have a reliable. Yeah. Transfer out Toro. That’d be fantastic.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah, it’d be very cool.
Justin Vacula: I didn’t even think of that.
Carrisa Rawson: I’m sorry. I just got really excited. I just hyped the idea.
Justin Vacula: That’s a good one. Yeah.
You gotta give us a shot. Yeah. Instead of, uh, buying all this chicken soup, uh, we could just get some airliners. Imagine if
Carrisa Rawson: you could transfer that. Imagine if you could earn fuel points, convert them to robe, and then book a flight for 88 miles.
Justin Vacula: Ooh, yes. And then get to berries.
Carrisa Rawson: So silly,
Justin Vacula: but cool fueled by points and perhaps go back to Poland, maybe in better accommodations than LOT Polish Air, an older business class product.
But it was still nice. I’ll appreciate it.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah, I’ve only flown a lot once and it was an economy and Wow, I’ll say that.
Justin Vacula: Then we could really go on our supermarket sweeps with the former host of [00:25:00] supermarket sweep, David Rupert.
Carrisa Rawson: Do you know him?
Justin Vacula: No. No, but I, I used to watch the show a lot when I was younger.
Yeah, I got really excited for Sweet with David Re I loved
Carrisa Rawson: that show. Yeah.
Justin Vacula: Yeah. We’ll have to check in on him. We’ll get the big bonuses in the back of the store and have some fun.
Carrisa Rawson: The dream,
Justin Vacula: the bonus drove Miles. It could be like one of those big fat checks they give to the alleged winners of Publishers Clearing House, if that’s still a thing.
Carrisa Rawson: I know anything went bankrupt this year. Uh
Justin Vacula: oh
Carrisa Rawson: three. Rest in peace. We’ll, to check, we’ll
Justin Vacula: have to check on David too, see if he’s still all right.
Carrisa Rawson: If he’s still doing okay.
Justin Vacula: Yep. All right. Anything else you’d like to add?
Carrisa Rawson: I think that’s it. Yeah. I’ll keep you abreast if anything else pops up, but we have a lot in the works right now.
Justin Vacula: All right. We’ll see you in Las Vegas and before Vegas. Any other trips besides the Chicago seminars at Hyatt?
Carrisa Rawson: I don’t know. I’m always traveling. I think this might actually be my longest time. I’m staying in one place because I’m trying desperately [00:26:00] to not be jet lagged. No, I think I actually don’t have anything before.
Chicago Tarbucks seminars, and then I’ve got Vegas and then immediately after Vegas I’m going to break Poll Asia for two weeks.
Justin Vacula: And now you’re moved into New York that has finished, correct?
Carrisa Rawson: Yep. Uh, each and every square foot of my apartment is folds of bursting of 2, 237 feet of it. Square feet. Yeah.
Justin Vacula: You’ll become friends with the New York Transit system and then perhaps pop over to Boston as well and ride the MBTA.
Carrisa Rawson: That would be cool. Honestly, I’m really appreciating as a WS Coast person, obviously we have basically no public transit, so I’m, I’m taking a subway every day to work. It’s, and I appreciate it.
I’m, I’ve been a long time fan of public transit and I constantly am angry about how the US has subpar systems compared to other countries. Yeah. I love having access to it in New York and just like VEing out on my commute,
Justin Vacula: maybe an Amtrak credit card in January, 2026,
Carrisa Rawson: that would be pretty cool. I’m thinking about [00:27:00] it.
Justin Vacula: Nice. Maybe another increased offer. And of course the MGM iconic credit card I think is way up on the list in 2026 as well. If you don’t have it already. I’ve been talking about this, I had a past episode about it to get complimentary cruises from MGM Gold and Platinum status. Very appealing proposition.
Carrisa Rawson: Man. I miss my MGM Goldstone. I feel like I, I need to open one of those cars. Yeah,
Justin Vacula: yeah. January will be your time. We can go over to Atlantic City and you can go to Borgata and use. Your rewards there.
Carrisa Rawson: Yeah, that’d be great.
Justin Vacula: America’s favorite AM four lounge, 1250 in comps for all you can eat or drink with MGM Gold status.
Carrisa Rawson: I think I went there. I did do the Atlantic City matching with Oceans Cities. Oh no, ocean Oceans Resorts.
Justin Vacula: Wait, ocean, not Oceans?
Carrisa Rawson: No, no Print. Multiple Oceans.
Justin Vacula: Oh, maybe she got me there.
Carrisa Rawson: I did, but I did. I went and did that satisfaction a couple of years [00:28:00] ago. I feel like it’s for me to go back and revisit the lounge and see if I can, I hear if you’ve got enough cell phones, you can gain your weight and just as many free comps as you want.
So
Justin Vacula: yes, the phone Army makes all things possible. Yeah. All right. Very good. Once again, Carissa Rosson of Rove new transfer partner, the European loyalty program, miles and more. Partnering with Lufthansa, Swiss, Austrian Airlines, Brussels Airlines, ITA Airways, ti Luxair, Croatia Airlines and Euro Wings,
Carrisa Rawson: and a Star Alliance partner, star United Flight, et cetera.
Yeah, all good things.
Justin Vacula: And where can people find you and Rove online?
Carrisa Rawson: Instagram, we are at Join Rove. Obviously, I’ve already mentioned the Thero Insiders Facebook group. That’s a thriving community. We have a private Discord link in there if you want to join. We have a subreddit or a Reddit road. Miles and on TikTok, we are at Grove Miles.
Justin Vacula: All right. Thanks for joining me today. [00:29:00]
Carrisa Rawson: Thanks for having me.
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